Does religion have value? I believe so, but it's hard to find truth, happiness, or God through religion. That's a bold statement, I know. What's easy to find in a religion... is that religion's definition of who God is, its definition of happiness and its definition of truth. It's hard to learn these things for yourself as long as you are listening to that religion's definitions, and not learning, questioning, and listening to your own discoveries. The things that I have learned in my life, things that matter to my happiness, are things that I learned on my own. Truths that I have learned, and things that bring me happiness, I learned through trial and error, and questioning. We all do.
I read a post the other day on reddit by an exChristian called, Quitting the church and Bible reading made me more loving. This person explained that the reason he began to analyse his religion was... "too many Christians I knew and ESPECIALLY those in ministry were impatient, sarcastic and very closed minded...Then I got to thinking why I was different from them. I mean, I believed in the same God and followed the same religion but the nicer and more loving I got, the angrier and more intolerant they got. I then figured out two major differences between me and the Christians I knew. 1) I had stopped going to church. 2) I had stopped reading the Bible...It was amazing that simply stopping doing those two things created a wide chasm between me and the church going Bible readers. They seemed to get more negative, more filled with pessimism and being judgmental and self righteous while I was being filled with a sense of wonder and longing to explore life."
So what did this person learn from his religion? I don't know he didn't say, I'm sure he learned some good things, but the main things that he found to be true or that brought him joy, he discovered himself. He gained a sense of wonder and a longing to explore life, and as he moved away from the confines and dictates of his religious dogma it allowed him to see life as a place of exploration; he became less judgmental, nicer, and more loving. Of course, this is only anecdotal, but it's a very common theme among people who leave their religion.
This is not a push for people to leave their religion. It's an acknowledgment of my belief that it's hard to learn for yourself through a man made religion, and trust me... anyone that's in a religion and thinks they have the truth, I have been there! I know how strong those convictions are, and if it's serving you well, then stay there. But... if it is taking you away from any kind of relationship with family or friends, if it is separating you from others, making you believe that you have a better knowledge, understanding, or the truth regarding our existence here, it's probably not serving you well. If you are not discovering your own path, and truths, and are relying on your religion's definitions, it's probably not serving you well.
My nephew is a doctor. He's an intelligent, kind, upstanding individual. He was valedictorian of his high school, served a mission in Italy, attended BYU, and got married in the temple. His life was on track for a complete Mormon success story. Then something happened, he and his wife divorced before he got out of medical school. Then after a year or so, he stopped attending church. My sister-in-law was so distraught over this. I thought, what a shame that because of our religion we worry about our children because they aren't going to church, or stopped believing the faith they were taught. Anyone on the outside of our religion, would look at this young doctor and say, wow, what a great person, that's all they would see.
These are biases that religion causes, and they can separate families. I have two favorite books/movies that I have gained much insight from. One is: Eat, Pray, Love by Elizabeth Gilbert and the other is, The Way of the Peaceful Warrior, by Dan Millman. Both of these authors have learned from their experiences in meaningful ways, and have shared that wisdom with us. In other words, they have learned truth. They have learned things through their experiences that lead them to joy and happiness. Here's a few of my favorite quotes from Dan Millman:
..."everyone tells you what's good for you, they don't want you to find your own answers, they want you to believe theirs."
"Everything you'll ever need to know is within you..."
"The journey is what brings us happiness not the destination."
"Life has three rules: Paradox, Humor, and Change.
-Paradox: Life is a mystery; don't waste your time trying to figure it out.
-Humor: Keep a sense of humor, especially about yourself. It is a strength beyond all measure.
-Change: Know that nothing stays the same."
"Enlightenment is not an attainment, it is a realization. And when you wake up, everything changes..."
"A fool is 'happy' when his cravings are satisfied. A warrior is happy without reason. That's what makes happiness the ultimate discipline."
..."focus all your energy not on struggling with the old, but on building the new."
"Never struggle with anyone or anything. When you're pushed, pull; when you're pulled push."
And my favorite one of all:
"There are no Ordinary Moments"
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Saturday, March 28, 2015
Coming Around
When I discovered that the Mormon Church was not what it said it was (thanks to Elder Holland and his comments in a PBS interview in which he answers questions about Blacks and the Priesthood ban, that were shocking to my true believing ears) it broke my heart to discover the hidden history of the Church, the remaking of events, and the cover up and elimination of much of the real history. But what really broke my heart was to discover that it isn't Christ's restored church on this earth, at least not in the sense that it claims to be. Meaning, I doubt seriously if God and Jesus Christ appeared to Joseph Smith in the Sacred Grove and told him the things that the Church claims they did. The evidence just doesn't support that story, I should say that version of the story, since there are three or four versions of the vision, and the Church only teaches the last one, which by that time included two Gods and a completely different vision then Joseph Smith originally claimed. You can listen to apologist's try to spin a good reason for the different versions, but I'm not into spinning things. If I was, I would have listened to the apologist's spin on the Blacks and the Priesthood, or almost every other topic and problem the Church has with its history, there is plenty of apologist spin out there, enough to make your head dizzy.
It did break my heart, because I believed it so deeply, and my entire life structure was built upon it. It's not easy to have your entire foundation ripped out from underneath you, lets just say, it's not for the faint of heart. But I have never been faint of heart, I was taught to "put your shoulder to the wheel, and push along", I was taught to "lengthen your stride", I was taught "even the intent to deceive was a lie", and I was taught to "do what is right, let the consequence follow". I guess in reality my church taught me the skills, the integrity, the courage, and the ability to walk away, when I discovered it wasn't what it said it was. So in that regard, I'm very grateful. I'm glad that I learned those lessons so well, so when the time came that I needed to not be, faint of heart, I wasn't!
One problem the Church has are the literalists claims it makes, i.e. this literally is Christ's restored church, Christ is literally running it through revelation to the prophet, our leaders are literally Apostles and Prophets of Jesus Christ, the priesthood was restored to Joseph Smith by Peter, James, and John, and on and on and on...the literal claims are so numerous! And that's why the Church is now being picked apart by some of its own members and others using historical records, primary sources, historical research, journal entries, scientific evidence, and words of their own leaders, just to name a few. The historical evidence doesn't match up with the Church's literal claims, plain and simple, and the Church is losing members because of it.
Interestingly, the Mormon Church is not alone. There are literalists of a different stripe, and they too are suffering from their literal claims. Religion in general is suffering, but specifically Christianity, especially the evangelical, fundamentalist stripe. Not every Christian believes that Noah was a real person, who built an ark and put two of every creature into that ark, and the earth was flooded. Not every Christian believes that the Bible is the inerrant word of God, without error or fault in all its teaching. Not every Christian takes literally the virgin birth of Jesus, the resurrection of Christ, or the Second Coming. But there are those who do and they would find good company with the Mormon's, because Mormons believe all of those things too, literally. I say they would find good company with the Mormons, if the fundamentalists would stop sending Mormons to Hell, that is! These fundamentalist's are holding on literally to all of these beliefs, even though there is no proof of any of it, all of their literalist claims, fall apart, just like the Mormon's do. But they are hanging on for dear life, turning a blind eye and deaf ear to all that is going on around them, and at the same time, proclaiming that only they know the real Jesus, and you have the wrong one, if you don't believe as they do, and they know who is saved and who's going to Hell.
I don't begrudge literalist in any religion, I used to be one. I know how strong those beliefs are. There are two things in this life, I have learned, that are so strong... stronger than logic, stronger than facts, and stronger than family ties sometimes; those two things are beliefs and fears. People will do some of the most amazing things because of belief and because of fear, both negative and positive. You could say that its these two things that makes the world go round. And I'm fairly convinced that God gave us these strong senses as a survival mechanism, even though these two senses also cause so much destruction and havoc in the world. Everything has its opposite and the goal is learning to choose love over other emotions, which is difficult to do, especially in light of our fears and beliefs. Love is often the last thing we turn to, but I have hope in a patient God, allowing us to learn and grow at our own pace as our desires turn toward love and away from fear, which just happens to be the opposite of love.
Am I condemning literalist for their beliefs? No, I love them, they are good people who do many good things, and some bad things. All of us do. They have a very strong world view and think that it's the only way, the correct way, and the goal for them and God also, is for you to think that way too. But the literalists claims ruin things, because they're not really true, even though believers don't know that. They don't see the harm that some of their beliefs bring to themselves and others, because they believe things so strongly they can't image that their "truth" could bring harm. In a real sense literalist beliefs keep them hemmed into a tight knit world, usually surrounded by like minded people. Just as Alexander Leek says in the movie Mothman Prophecies: If there was a car crash ten blocks away, that window washer up there could probably see it. Now, that doesn't mean he's God, or even smarter than you are. But from where he's sitting, he can see a little further down the road. So in other words, those down below (those in their tight little world) may not be able to see out as far as someone who is not hemmed in by those literal beliefs, just like the window washer.
The reason I say these literal beliefs ruin everything, be their religious or sectarian, is because the believer gets so caught up in the belief that they cannot see things clearly, or another's perspective. In other words, they own the truth and cannot consider another's point of view. The belief trumps everything, thinking stops, pride sets in, and adherence to the belief becomes the paramount virtue over love and acceptance of others, over consideration of another's position, or circumstance.
Okay, so it broke my heart to discover that my literal beliefs were not true. There is value to literal beliefs, but there are drawbacks too. Being able to open your eyes to all of that is very empowering, and yet unsettling. You no longer have answers to life's important questions, be the answers true or false, there is a secure feeling in having them. That's fine, but now it's grow up time. Time to move on. You are leaving a false belief behind where you found safety. That's okay, its called growing. I think its a false believe to think that the most important thing that God wants from us is to have faith, endure to the end, don't get out of the boat, just stay the course. I think what God really wants is for us to think, think, think, learn truths through our own experiences, have experiences that will teach us love and compassion for others. Why would a God want anything other than that?
I watched a movie the other day, at the end, a woman said: You have to be willing to loose everything, for God to shape you into what he has planned. Before I would have heard that and thought, you have to be willing to sacrifice all that you have, be willing to go through trials, have your faith tested, etc. BUT, now I hear that and think, you have to be willing to loose everything, meaning your belief system, that's when you really loose everything, and allow God to shape you into what he has planned. That's quite a different thing! Much more meaningful to God and to you.
Saturday, February 28, 2015
They all have problems
All religions fall apart under examination, but they can and do have value for the believers. BUT, no faith is perfect, even for the true believer. All faiths have drawbacks that can cause harm to others, often those we love the most. The trick is to have the courage to examine your religion, because it will fall apart under scrutiny... doctrinally, scientifically, and its historicity. NO EXCEPTIONS! Mark Twain once said: The ease with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also.
The value of a faith then lies in taking the good from it... stay if you want, but with eyes wide open. With open eyes you can minimize the damage that comes from believing wrong things. You can love freely, you can rid yourself of judgments that inherently come from a faith, and you can embrace other's beliefs. What a beautiful gift to give yourself, your family, and your friends. And you will know truths. The truths that really matter, not the "truths" about or that come from knowing your faith is true, and right. Real truths that you learn for yourself throughout your life. Truths like, when I'm patient and loving, I'm happier. These real truths that all of us learn through our experiences are the most important truths, because they effect our happiness, the happiness of those around us, and the way we live our life.
It's really that simple. I don't think this life is about salvation. I don't think God necessarily cares what we believe, even if we believe in God or not. I think our experience in this life has value because of what we learn and what we do with the things we learn. You will discover the things in life that are most important, as soon as you stop listening to a faith telling you what is most important and begin listening to yourself tell you what is most important. Learning to think for yourself and freeing yourself from the bondage of having to think a certain way a faith wants you to think, is the single most important gift you can give to yourself.
The value of a faith then lies in taking the good from it... stay if you want, but with eyes wide open. With open eyes you can minimize the damage that comes from believing wrong things. You can love freely, you can rid yourself of judgments that inherently come from a faith, and you can embrace other's beliefs. What a beautiful gift to give yourself, your family, and your friends. And you will know truths. The truths that really matter, not the "truths" about or that come from knowing your faith is true, and right. Real truths that you learn for yourself throughout your life. Truths like, when I'm patient and loving, I'm happier. These real truths that all of us learn through our experiences are the most important truths, because they effect our happiness, the happiness of those around us, and the way we live our life.
It's really that simple. I don't think this life is about salvation. I don't think God necessarily cares what we believe, even if we believe in God or not. I think our experience in this life has value because of what we learn and what we do with the things we learn. You will discover the things in life that are most important, as soon as you stop listening to a faith telling you what is most important and begin listening to yourself tell you what is most important. Learning to think for yourself and freeing yourself from the bondage of having to think a certain way a faith wants you to think, is the single most important gift you can give to yourself.
Saturday, January 24, 2015
Staying is easy!
Coming to the realization that the Church isn't what it claims to be, is a difficult and painful process for most people. Almost inevitably you are surrounded by family and friends who are active members, and STAYING is the easy option. Please know, wherever you are in this process or whichever "side" you are on, believing or non-believing, please know that STAYING is the easier option, initially anyway. Not necessarily the right option, but the easier one. So if you are having difficulty leaving, or someone you love is leaving the Church, please at least give them or yourself the respect that they deserve in knowing that they are choosing the harder option, Not the easy way out.
When I first discovered things about the Church, that led to my leaving, I remember I would read so many alarming things about the history of the Church, or quotes from leaders, from well documented primary sources, not anti-Mormon literature, that left me feeling distant from it and its teachings. Then I would go to Church on Sunday, see my friends, do my calling, I was the Young Women's leader at the time, and I would get so caught up in the familiarity of it all, the comfortableness of it all, that I would forget for the moment the lies and deception. I liked my world, it was easy to walk in those shoes, it was easy to talk the talk and walk the walk. EASY!!
Staying would have been the easier choice. Just brush aside the truth and remain in the illusion. Let the illusion fill my world, suppress the things I learned back into some dark closet in my mind, never to be opened again. I could pat myself on the back for being triumphant to this "trial of my faith" and go on with my life, just the way it was. No Big Deal.
But here's the catch, integrity would not allow that. When I could plainly see the lies, how could I push it all aside just to make my life easy? Knowing that staying is perpetuating the lies, we (my husband and I) could not stay. We could not in good conscience be used by the Church to promote their illusion of the restored gospel of Jesus Christ. That's how we began to view it. Staying is saying we believe it and it is true, and we could no longer say that. So we had to go, as difficult and unsettling as that is.
And there was another reason we had to go. We have a thirteen year old daughter, we could not continue to teach her that this Church is Christ's restored gospel, with a prophet that leads by direct revelation from Jesus Christ. How could we teach that to her, to have her discover someday that it is not true and then she has to have her world fall apart too. No, we love her too much to do that. So for her and for integrity's sake we walked away, when staying would have been easier. Much easier!
But here's the beauty of it all, it is worth it! Being free to think on your own, not tied down by religion. Free to make your choices, see the world through new eyes. EVERYONE should try that once in their life, let go of the things you have believed your entire life, if just for a minute to see what may be out there that you have never seen before. It will change you forever, for the better. Even if you go back to your beliefs, at least you got to see the world from a different view. How refreshing, how invigorating, how freeing. Now I let God lead me, I ask God to reveal himself to me on his terms, not mine, and not through some manmade religion, which they all are in my opinion. Oh, and Sunday what a beautiful day it has become, truly a day of rest, pleasure, relaxation, discovery, nature, food, family, peace, no restrictions, no meetings, no things that I have to do, no lessons to teach, just a day of absolute joy!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When I first discovered things about the Church, that led to my leaving, I remember I would read so many alarming things about the history of the Church, or quotes from leaders, from well documented primary sources, not anti-Mormon literature, that left me feeling distant from it and its teachings. Then I would go to Church on Sunday, see my friends, do my calling, I was the Young Women's leader at the time, and I would get so caught up in the familiarity of it all, the comfortableness of it all, that I would forget for the moment the lies and deception. I liked my world, it was easy to walk in those shoes, it was easy to talk the talk and walk the walk. EASY!!
Staying would have been the easier choice. Just brush aside the truth and remain in the illusion. Let the illusion fill my world, suppress the things I learned back into some dark closet in my mind, never to be opened again. I could pat myself on the back for being triumphant to this "trial of my faith" and go on with my life, just the way it was. No Big Deal.
But here's the catch, integrity would not allow that. When I could plainly see the lies, how could I push it all aside just to make my life easy? Knowing that staying is perpetuating the lies, we (my husband and I) could not stay. We could not in good conscience be used by the Church to promote their illusion of the restored gospel of Jesus Christ. That's how we began to view it. Staying is saying we believe it and it is true, and we could no longer say that. So we had to go, as difficult and unsettling as that is.
And there was another reason we had to go. We have a thirteen year old daughter, we could not continue to teach her that this Church is Christ's restored gospel, with a prophet that leads by direct revelation from Jesus Christ. How could we teach that to her, to have her discover someday that it is not true and then she has to have her world fall apart too. No, we love her too much to do that. So for her and for integrity's sake we walked away, when staying would have been easier. Much easier!
But here's the beauty of it all, it is worth it! Being free to think on your own, not tied down by religion. Free to make your choices, see the world through new eyes. EVERYONE should try that once in their life, let go of the things you have believed your entire life, if just for a minute to see what may be out there that you have never seen before. It will change you forever, for the better. Even if you go back to your beliefs, at least you got to see the world from a different view. How refreshing, how invigorating, how freeing. Now I let God lead me, I ask God to reveal himself to me on his terms, not mine, and not through some manmade religion, which they all are in my opinion. Oh, and Sunday what a beautiful day it has become, truly a day of rest, pleasure, relaxation, discovery, nature, food, family, peace, no restrictions, no meetings, no things that I have to do, no lessons to teach, just a day of absolute joy!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thursday, January 15, 2015
Into the Mind of a Mormon
I would say that there are two great pillars of the Mormon faith: Truth and God.
We are taught that we have the truth because we are the restored Gospel of Jesus Christ, and we have a living prophet that receives direct revelation (truth) from God. Because we are the restored Church of Christ, we have God. The Church and God are the same in essence, and God and the truth are the same, so these two great pillars Truth and God, not only do we own them, they are basically one in the same.
As a Mormon you value the truth, and always want to be faithful to the truth. As a Mormon you value the Church, and always want to be faithful to the Church. Since they are one in the same, being faithful to both is easy and not in conflict with each other, and because they are one in the same you don't have to value one over the other... they are equal and the same. Christ is the author of truth, this is his Church, they are tied together, you cannot separate them.
This concept of the truth and the Church being one is reinforced by everything in your life. As a Mormon you may have many spiritual experiences, these reinforce for you the truthfulness of Christ's Church, that you are in the true Church and you have the truth. All of the Church's teachings reinforce this. Most Mormons have many Mormon friends and family members, who all reinforce this to each other. They all believe it and it's their walk and their talk. It has been reinforced by your family, friends, and the Church how important it is to be faithful to Christ, (which is his church) and to the truth (which is his church).
So... when you stumble upon something or learn something about the Church, that exposes it to be false, I believe in a brief millisecond you have to choose between these two great pillars, the truth and God (the church). I believe it happens so quickly that you are not even aware of the choice that you are making, or that you are even making a choice. I believe in our subconscious one of these is more weightier to us than the other, and whichever the one is, determines your path.
For me it was the truth. The truth raised up, and I saw it more clearly, and the truth set me free. For others, being faithful to Christ, (which in their eyes is the church) is most important, and anything that says the Church isn't true, or threatens the Church will be cast away immediately and quickly forgotten, while the joy of staying faithful to Christ is reinforced by everyone you associate with, and in everything you do. For the truth to dominate, you have to want to know the truth more then you want the Church to be true. It's that simple and it's that complex.
So two people, one that held to the truth and the other that held to the Church, who once held these two beliefs so strongly in common will become separated. Each one believing they are holding to the most important thing.
This is where Mormon Faith Crisis Help comes in. Until you are in this situation, you don't know that this world view you hold can be separated, and you might find yourself at odds with your spouse or family member. If you can see that the person is holding to the one that they have placed more value in, it is easier to understand where they are coming from, and to be less judgmental.
We are taught that we have the truth because we are the restored Gospel of Jesus Christ, and we have a living prophet that receives direct revelation (truth) from God. Because we are the restored Church of Christ, we have God. The Church and God are the same in essence, and God and the truth are the same, so these two great pillars Truth and God, not only do we own them, they are basically one in the same.
As a Mormon you value the truth, and always want to be faithful to the truth. As a Mormon you value the Church, and always want to be faithful to the Church. Since they are one in the same, being faithful to both is easy and not in conflict with each other, and because they are one in the same you don't have to value one over the other... they are equal and the same. Christ is the author of truth, this is his Church, they are tied together, you cannot separate them.
This concept of the truth and the Church being one is reinforced by everything in your life. As a Mormon you may have many spiritual experiences, these reinforce for you the truthfulness of Christ's Church, that you are in the true Church and you have the truth. All of the Church's teachings reinforce this. Most Mormons have many Mormon friends and family members, who all reinforce this to each other. They all believe it and it's their walk and their talk. It has been reinforced by your family, friends, and the Church how important it is to be faithful to Christ, (which is his church) and to the truth (which is his church).
So... when you stumble upon something or learn something about the Church, that exposes it to be false, I believe in a brief millisecond you have to choose between these two great pillars, the truth and God (the church). I believe it happens so quickly that you are not even aware of the choice that you are making, or that you are even making a choice. I believe in our subconscious one of these is more weightier to us than the other, and whichever the one is, determines your path.
For me it was the truth. The truth raised up, and I saw it more clearly, and the truth set me free. For others, being faithful to Christ, (which in their eyes is the church) is most important, and anything that says the Church isn't true, or threatens the Church will be cast away immediately and quickly forgotten, while the joy of staying faithful to Christ is reinforced by everyone you associate with, and in everything you do. For the truth to dominate, you have to want to know the truth more then you want the Church to be true. It's that simple and it's that complex.
So two people, one that held to the truth and the other that held to the Church, who once held these two beliefs so strongly in common will become separated. Each one believing they are holding to the most important thing.
This is where Mormon Faith Crisis Help comes in. Until you are in this situation, you don't know that this world view you hold can be separated, and you might find yourself at odds with your spouse or family member. If you can see that the person is holding to the one that they have placed more value in, it is easier to understand where they are coming from, and to be less judgmental.
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